24" iMac and BootCamp - Your experience, Getting the 24" to boot to Windows

[Adorimac]

Still have to check my SMC version, I'll do it ASAP.

I currently will NOT be attempting to install Windows on this computer until I get assurances that it'll actually work and not 'break my computer'. The highly touted 'windows compatible' garbage is the primary reason I spent several thousand of my hard earned dollars on this system. I am not a happy camper!

I understand your disappointment. It's really hard to believe such problems might occur without any answer from Apple. Hope we'll soon find a clue.
A member of the French forum just said he had the black (but not the grey) screen syndrom, but managed otherwise to install Vista via BootCamp. Quite surprising. Yet the GPU wasn't working properly with Vista (and I wonder if his version was legally detained).

In general, Vista seems to be less a problem than WinXP

Hey guys, I've been having this same problem but I'm leaving work about now.
I think I MAY have hope for this, which I'm going to look at when I get home tonight.
Supposedly, XP doesn't support large Apple Cinema Displays. So you need WinACD - http://sourceforge.net/projects/winacd/

So I am going to install those drivers and see if it works. I hope to god it does, I can't deal without using windows. The adobe suite is FAR too slow right now on intel macs through rosetta, I need to run in windows so I can work.

[Adorimac]

Still have to check my SMC version, I'll do it ASAP.

I currently will NOT be attempting to install Windows on this computer until I get assurances that it'll actually work and not 'break my computer'. The highly touted 'windows compatible' garbage is the primary reason I spent several thousand of my hard earned dollars on this system. I am not a happy camper!

I understand your disappointment. It's really hard to believe such problems might occur without any answer from Apple. Hope we'll soon find a clue.
A member of the French forum just said he had the black (but not the grey) screen syndrom, but managed otherwise to install Vista via BootCamp. Quite surprising. Yet the GPU wasn't working properly with Vista (and I wonder if his version was legally detained).

In general, Vista seems to be less a problem than WinXP

Hey guys, I've been having this same problem but I'm leaving work about now.
I think I MAY have hope for this, which I'm going to look at when I get home tonight.
Supposedly, XP doesn't support large Apple Cinema Displays. So you need WinACD - http://sourceforge.net/projects/winacd/

So I am going to install those drivers and see if it works. I hope to god it does, I can't deal without using windows. The adobe suite is FAR too slow right now on intel macs through rosetta, I need to run in windows so I can work.

Also - I am trying Vista over this weekend, 64bit edition - anyone try this?

[linathael]

Also - I am trying Vista over this weekend, 64bit edition - anyone try this?

hello

the WinACD is a good idea to pursue. let us know what comes out.
concerning Vista, many users have installed it, a team member did it on a MacPro as explain here after:
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/63/

[Adorimac]

Also - I am trying Vista over this weekend, 64bit edition - anyone try this?

hello

the WinACD is a good idea to pursue. let us know what comes out.
concerning Vista, many users have installed it, a team member did it on a MacPro as explain here after:
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/63/

Well, it didn't work. Vista nor the WinACD drivers gave me any luck - so we're still hopeless.

[Adorimac]

Also - I am trying Vista over this weekend, 64bit edition - anyone try this?

hello

the WinACD is a good idea to pursue. let us know what comes out.
concerning Vista, many users have installed it, a team member did it on a MacPro as explain here after:
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/63/

Well, it didn't work. Vista nor the WinACD drivers gave me any luck - so we're still hopeless.

GOD, can't apple do SOMETHING here?? This makes me so angry! I need to run the adobe suite in XP, and I want to play some games. NOT the four or five that Apple currently offer in universal binary. I don't want three year old games! This machine is my work tool. What did I pay for!

[linathael]

GOD, can't apple do SOMETHING here?? This makes me so angry! I need to run the adobe suite in XP, and I want to play some games. NOT the four or five that Apple currently offer in universal binary. I don't want three year old games! This machine is my work tool. What did I pay for!

ask to get it replaced as it is covered by the warranty.
it does not imply that it will be fine with the new model ... unfortunately

[Adorimac]

GOD, can't apple do SOMETHING here?? This makes me so angry! I need to run the adobe suite in XP, and I want to play some games. NOT the four or five that Apple currently offer in universal binary. I don't want three year old games! This machine is my work tool. What did I pay for!

ask to get it replaced as it is covered by the warranty.
it does not imply that it will be fine with the new model ... unfortunately

I read that people who complain about bootcamp being a reason are told by apple "sorry, we don't support bootcamp."

[linathael]

I read that people who complain about bootcamp being a reason are told by apple "sorry, we don't support bootcamp."

yes, but many of them can not re-isntall OSX after BootCamp installation failed.
second, Apple does not support bootCamp, but advertise widely about it, so in many countries including EU such behavior would be easy to bring to a court.

[Flyinace2000]

I read that people who complain about bootcamp being a reason are told by apple "sorry, we don't support bootcamp."

yes, but many of them can not re-isntall OSX after BootCamp installation failed.
second, Apple does not support bootCamp, but advertise widely about it, so in many countries including EU such behavior would be easy to bring to a court.

there is a new EFI update available. Here goes nothinG!!! BRB

[Flyinace2000]

New firmware seems to have no affect on the black screen on windows boot. Some else want to try installed via external monitor to see if windows can fix itself once on the desktop?

[Adorimac]

New firmware seems to have no affect on the black screen on windows boot. Some else want to try installed via external monitor to see if windows can fix itself once on the desktop?

I haven't gotten any firmware yet - at work now, but I've tried the external monitor. As far as I can see, you can install and run windows through the external VGA monitor, but you can never get the internal display to work. Which is, in my humble opinion, ridiculous.

[Adorimac]

New firmware seems to have no affect on the black screen on windows boot. Some else want to try installed via external monitor to see if windows can fix itself once on the desktop?

I haven't gotten any firmware yet - at work now, but I've tried the external monitor. As far as I can see, you can install and run windows through the external VGA monitor, but you can never get the internal display to work. Which is, in my humble opinion, ridiculous.

There's a new firmware for imacs, including 24" - someone please try it out and let me know if it works!! I'm at work and can't do it myself.

[linathael]

There's a new firmware for imacs, including 24" - someone please try it out and let me know if it works!! I'm at work and can't do it myself.

we have published a news about it today: http://www.hardmac.com/news/2006-11-14/#6125

according to Flyinace2000, 3 posts over yours in this topic, the new firmware does not fix the problem.
one should maybe try to perform a complete re - installation OSX + BootCamp after this firmware update.
it is a misery when one considers that the new firmware update has fixed the similar issue between Mac Pro / Boot Camp / Cinema display 23".

[LeonO]

My new BTO iMac 24" does run Boot Camp with Microsoft Windows XP SP2. Here's the specification of my machine:

Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Memory: 2 GB
Boot ROM Version: IM61.0093.B01
SMC Version: 1.10f3
Serial Number: W86430*****

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-K06:
Firmware Revision: Q609

Please note the newer SMC version (which I have not seen mentioned before in this thread) and the model SuperDrive, which is different from the earlier iMac 24" systems.

Also no humming when the brightness of the LCD is low (at least, I can't hear it, except for the spinning of the harddrive and maybe a CPU fan).

[Flyinace2000]

Where are you located?

[LeonO]

Where are you located?

The Netherlands.

This post has been edited by LeonO: Nov 14 2006, 11:07 PM

[Flyinace2000]

Where are you located?

The Netherlands.

Did the recent EFI update get you up to 10f3 or did you computer arriv like that?

[Adorimac]

Where are you located?

The Netherlands.

Did the recent EFI update get you up to 10f3 or did you computer arriv like that?

Well, I tried up the update, and I still have zero results. No XP here, no screen in bootcamp, nothing. I did however spend 20 mins downloading and installing an update that did nothing noticeable.

[LeonO]

Did the recent EFI update get you up to 10f3 or did you computer arriv like that?

My iMac 24" arrived with SMC version 1.10f3 preinstalled.

[Curves]

one should maybe try to perform a complete re - installation OSX + BootCamp after this firmware update.

Doesnt work for me (compete reinstall of OSX + bootcamp after firmware update)


Since i have buy this mac, i can install Windows (XP Pro Sp2) using an external vga monitor (with the MiniDVI to VGA adapter), but i cant activate the internal display.
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Memory: 1 GB
Boot ROM Version: IM61.0093.B01
SMC Version: 1.10f2
Serial Number: W86361*****

[linathael]

one should maybe try to perform a complete re - installation OSX + BootCamp after this firmware update.

Doesnt work for me (compete reinstall of OSX + bootcamp after firmware update)


Since i have buy this mac, i can install Windows (XP Pro Sp2) using an external vga monitor (with the MiniDVI to VGA adapter), but i cant activate the internal display.
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2.16 GHz
Memory: 1 GB
Boot ROM Version: IM61.0093.B01
SMC Version: 1.10f2
Serial Number: W86361*****

you have performed the EFI firmware update but your SMC version remains 1.10f2?
I would have expected 1.10f3...

[Curves]

you have performed the EFI firmware update but your SMC version remains 1.10f2?
I would have expected 1.10f3...

Yes, after the EFI update, my SMC version is always 1.10f2, but i think its ok ?

Apple note

After the firmware update is successfully applied to your computer, your Boot ROM Version will be:
IM41.0055.B08 (early 2006)
IM42.0071.B03 (17-inch mid 2006)
IM52.0090.B03 (17-inch late 2006 CD)
IM51.0090.B03 (20-inch late 2006)
IM61.0093.B01 (24-inch)

This post has been edited by Curves: Nov 15 2006, 02:19 PM

[Flyinace2000]

So its looking like we are waiting for a update for those of us with 10f2 to bring us up to 10f3. What worries me is if they are already sending machines out with 10f3 why wouldn't the an update be available to everyone. One reason could be a subtle yet significant hardware modifcation. Just for kicks, those of you with 10f3, does you monitor hum when the brightness is lowered?

If this doesn't get fixed then i feel like i am getting ripped off. I bought this machine to replace two machines, my laptop (mac) and desktop (pc).

[linathael]

So its looking like we are waiting for a update for those of us with 10f2 to bring us up to 10f3. What worries me is if they are already sending machines out with 10f3 why wouldn't the an update be available to everyone. One reason could be a subtle yet significant hardware modifcation. Just for kicks, those of you with 10f3, does you monitor hum when the brightness is lowered?

If this doesn't get fixed then i feel like i am getting ripped off. I bought this machine to replace two machines, my laptop (mac) and desktop (pc).

optical drives seems to be different I think.

it migh indeed be the TFT panel too.

[Adorimac]

So its looking like we are waiting for a update for those of us with 10f2 to bring us up to 10f3. What worries me is if they are already sending machines out with 10f3 why wouldn't the an update be available to everyone. One reason could be a subtle yet significant hardware modifcation. Just for kicks, those of you with 10f3, does you monitor hum when the brightness is lowered?

If this doesn't get fixed then i feel like i am getting ripped off. I bought this machine to replace two machines, my laptop (mac) and desktop (pc).

optical drives seems to be different I think.

it migh indeed be the TFT panel too.

This needs to get solved.

[CadTux]

I have two iMac 24's purchased within about 2.5 months of each other. The major configuration differences between them are:

iMac1: 2GB RAM, 7600GT, 500GB HD, SN W86360V****
iMac2: 1GB RAM, 7300GT, 250GB HD, SN W86370V****

As reported by System Profiler, everything is identical, except the aforementioned differences.
The SMC is 1.10f2
The Superdrives are identical, revision FCQA
Both Video cards are ROM Revision 3021,

The ONLY difference is the Root ROM Version:
iMac1: IM61.0093.B00
iMac2: IM61.0093.B01

iMac1 will setup Windows, iMac 2 will not?
-TUX

[linathael]

I have two iMac 24's purchased within about 2.5 months of each other. The major configuration differences between them are:

iMac1: 2GB RAM, 7600GT, 500GB HD, SN W86360V****
iMac2: 1GB RAM, 7300GT, 250GB HD, SN W86370V****

As reported by System Profiler, everything is identical, except the aforementioned differences.
The SMC is 1.10f2
The Superdrives are identical, revision FCQA
Both Video cards are ROM Revision 3021,

The ONLY difference is the Root ROM Version:
iMac1: IM61.0093.B00
iMac2: IM61.0093.B01

iMac1 will setup Windows, iMac 2 will not?
-TUX

The IM61.0093.B01 is the one supposed to be installed by the last firmware update...
this is getting really odd, I am sure Apple knows waht is wrong, but it might simply be too expensive to recall all defective iMac24"...

[Adorimac]

I have two iMac 24's purchased within about 2.5 months of each other. The major configuration differences between them are:

iMac1: 2GB RAM, 7600GT, 500GB HD, SN W86360V****
iMac2: 1GB RAM, 7300GT, 250GB HD, SN W86370V****

As reported by System Profiler, everything is identical, except the aforementioned differences.
The SMC is 1.10f2
The Superdrives are identical, revision FCQA
Both Video cards are ROM Revision 3021,

The ONLY difference is the Root ROM Version:
iMac1: IM61.0093.B00
iMac2: IM61.0093.B01

iMac1 will setup Windows, iMac 2 will not?
-TUX

The IM61.0093.B01 is the one supposed to be installed by the last firmware update...
this is getting really odd, I am sure Apple knows waht is wrong, but it might simply be too expensive to recall all defective iMac24"...

But that is precisely what we need.. or we need replacements, us individuals who need windows and aren't getting access to it. This is something I need! Something I paid for! What do we do?!

[lb_george]

I just received my iMac 24" with 3GB two days ago. My SMC Version is 1.10f3 and I have updated the latest firmware. The ROM Version is IM61.0093.B01. Same problem both before and after the firmware update.

I have two iMac 24's purchased within about 2.5 months of each other. The major configuration differences between them are:

iMac1: 2GB RAM, 7600GT, 500GB HD, SN W86360V****
iMac2: 1GB RAM, 7300GT, 250GB HD, SN W86370V****

As reported by System Profiler, everything is identical, except the aforementioned differences.
The SMC is 1.10f2
The Superdrives are identical, revision FCQA
Both Video cards are ROM Revision 3021,

The ONLY difference is the Root ROM Version:
iMac1: IM61.0093.B00
iMac2: IM61.0093.B01

iMac1 will setup Windows, iMac 2 will not?
-TUX

The IM61.0093.B01 is the one supposed to be installed by the last firmware update...
this is getting really odd, I am sure Apple knows waht is wrong, but it might simply be too expensive to recall all defective iMac24"...

But that is precisely what we need.. or we need replacements, us individuals who need windows and aren't getting access to it. This is something I need! Something I paid for! What do we do?!

[Adorimac]

I just received my iMac 24" with 3GB two days ago. My SMC Version is 1.10f3 and I have updated the latest firmware. The ROM Version is IM61.0093.B01. Same problem both before and after the firmware update.

I have two iMac 24's purchased within about 2.5 months of each other. The major configuration differences between them are:

iMac1: 2GB RAM, 7600GT, 500GB HD, SN W86360V****
iMac2: 1GB RAM, 7300GT, 250GB HD, SN W86370V****

As reported by System Profiler, everything is identical, except the aforementioned differences.
The SMC is 1.10f2
The Superdrives are identical, revision FCQA
Both Video cards are ROM Revision 3021,

The ONLY difference is the Root ROM Version:
iMac1: IM61.0093.B00
iMac2: IM61.0093.B01

iMac1 will setup Windows, iMac 2 will not?
-TUX

The IM61.0093.B01 is the one supposed to be installed by the last firmware update...
this is getting really odd, I am sure Apple knows waht is wrong, but it might simply be too expensive to recall all defective iMac24"...

But that is precisely what we need.. or we need replacements, us individuals who need windows and aren't getting access to it. This is something I need! Something I paid for! What do we do?!

Is anyone else concerned that this might NEVER be fixed? It's a real possibility. What do you guys think of that?